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#7800182 May 09, 2013 at 12:58 PM · Edited 6 months ago
Officer
156 Posts
It appears that a few people feel that they are not welcomed or cannot get involved with the guild. In fact, I have even received a few submissions at the Moon Guard Secrets Tumblr that I run where people still complain about the inability to get involved. I've decided to try and compile a few things a new member can do to get out there. This has always worked for me and perhaps it will work for you, too. We have all been new members and know what it's like to be the 'new kid on the block'. But how you turn it around is often something you have to strive to do yourself. I'll list them off.


Utilize the Guild Website. - Far too often I find that the people who tend to complain are the same people who do not take advantage of the guild website. It is a wonderful tool for getting your character seen and staying up to date on everything that happens with the guild. You can join in on the guild chatter, check out fantastic art submitted by members, or read written submissions about characters. Last week, I hosted a journal contest for all to participate. All you had to do was write something in your journal about your character. It could be something his/her life experience, their past, anything. Anything at all. We received a lot of great entries but I noticed none of them were from members who are a bit newer. Please, understand that this is your opportunity to be seen! What better way for us to get to know your character and have a desire to interact with them then by seeing the world through their eyes.

example:

Before this guild, I joined nothing but raiding guilds. Since I was never going to get role play with raiders, to keep myself involved in rp and get others interested in role playing with me, I hosted a website. http://shecantdps.com. It held all my stories, journal entries, and just rambling. This helped big time for me since I was not in a RP guild. I strongly recommend writing because it's a doorway into your character's headspace that not only allows you to flesh out your character but gives others the opportunity to find a reason to interact with your character. I met a number of new people this way and I wasn't even in a RP guild. You can make RP happen and sometimes you don't even need a guild to do it. This is my personal suggestion since it has never failed me. Trust me when I say that stories are a life saver.


Speak up! - This is another thing I have also noticed that doesn't occur very often with new members. This is a huge guild. On a normal night, we have at least 30+ people all chatting, dungeoning, and doing their own thing. That means guild chat is typically very active with a wide variety of conversations ranging from silliness to debates on lore or real life issues. The guild chat is there for everyone to use. If you find yourself only using it to ask people if they want to do a dungeon or a BG, it's not enough to get people to see you. Join in on conversations! By all means, make a joke at the expense of a Sunward or Lightward. Offer your 2-cents to a discussion regarding lore or throw in your own joke.

Even better, START a conversation. It can be as simple as saying "Man, my day at work today was nuts..." and that is usually enough to get chat focused on you. Sometimes it might be missed. This happens. It doesn't matter what your rank is, sometimes something you say will get drowned in another conversation already happening. Don't panic! Don't be upset! This happens to everyone. The best thing to do is just pause, wait until you think there is a break, and freely bring it up again. I find that if it feels like people missed something I said, the key is to just wait or perhaps write it longer in hopes that they'll see it. Remember, we're a large guild. It's very easy for things to be missed or overlooked. Try not to be frustrated when this happens and you'll see that in time it's all a matter of timing when to say what you want to say.


Random RP is the best RP. - It really is. 90% of my best RP happens because of things that just ... happen. A character will approach mine to speak about something in regards to the guild or something along those lines. Sometimes it's not even just approaching others but just being at the right place at the right time. This is why I often say that everyone should come and hang at the Royal Exchange. It's the unofficial hang out spot for a lot of guilds. And -- for some damn reason -- the area where Sunguard is most prominent. Hanging around here gives you the opportunity to see and find a reason to interact with something happening there. It's open RP.

I know that there are some who complain that when you try to invite yourself in RP between two people, you are met with a response that the RP is private. It happens. Sometimes people are somewhere in a remote location of the city discussing a concern or issue and you feel slighted because their guild tag says "Sunguard" so you feel it's not right for them to turn you away. You can't always hop into RP sometimes and you must understand that, but one or two situations where the role play was closed off should not discourage you from trying with others. Remember, we're a large guild. One bad turn down with a member doesn't mean the rest will do the same! There are a lot of us who happen to be around not doing anything at all who are more than welcome to role play with you! And hey, sometimes just asking in guild chat "Who's IC right now and feels like doing something random?" is a nice alternative as well.

example:


Take advantage of officer channel. Try and think of something you feel others will likely tag you on.

"I'm a little concerned about all the tension. Are we really to stay in Quel'thalas...?"


Attend a D20 or RP-PVP event. Give yourself a reason for people to come to you. How? Speak of an injury you received during battle and if there is any mender around. EASIEST way to get RP in this guild since we have a ton of Dawnmenders. Or if you are a Dawnmender, offer you assistance!

"It seems I have acquired a wound ... does anyone have a few bandages perhaps? I need something to stop this bleeding."


After a meeting, try to reach out to other members and inquire about a few things that were spoken of in private.


"Excuse me, do you have a moment? What exactly did the Archon mean when he said...."

Or when in Silvermoon, listen in on a conversation and offer your own thoughts at random.

"That's a little rude to say to the Captain, don't you think?" or "Well... I finally get to see the man in person. We didn't get to speak much when we last met. I'm [ insert name. ]."



Make an effort. - Sometimes all it takes is just you making the effort. I know in a perfect world we'd like to hope that our senior or semi-senior members offer themselves for RP. But think about it. There are many different personalities in this guild IC and some are very social while others are typically reserved. It may be in your best interest to try and figure out who those characters are just by throwing yours out. If your character is equally anti-social, it's going to be EVEN HARDER to try and get role play. Trust me, I understand fully. I think the only time I was able to get my character to write was during events or situations where he felt like interjecting or making a blatantly rude comment to something overheard. I am always working triple hard to play Vaelrin because it sucks that he's not my other character -- Aestiah -- who has no problem making noise.

I understand that you feel it is the responsibility of senior members to always make an effort to reach you, but you have to understand we get new members almost every day! That's a lot of branching out sometimes! A few of our members will on occasion go out of their way to introduce themselves, but if it doesn't happen, please do not take it to mean that we are not friendly or closed off. Sometimes we don't know how to make our character approach a new person they have never met that just joined the militia. Plus, not all new members can think of a reason why their character will actively seek yours out if they are brand new. If you feel stuck on how to approach us, then it's very possible we're as equally stumped as you are. OOC, we'll always be up for saying hi and chatting. But IC, it's not as easy as just joining the guild to get the interaction you're hoping for. You still have to do your part to make your character stand out.

Here's a good suggestion if you just joined. Take the moment to have your character discover the joys of the intercom ( officer channel ):

"Hello? Is this working? Ah... didn't know I could reach out to you guys this way. Hello! I'm a new Emberward!"

You can't just walk around Silvermoon with your MRP tag stating you're IC and expect it to happen. You just can't. Sometimes you might get lucky, but more often than not, RP never just walks up to you. Behaving like a wall flower will get you treated like one. Hiding and not saying a word will mean that others will not know you exist. Make yourself exist. Make yourself known. Just because you are in the guild doesn't mean all the hard work it takes to get RP is now removed. You still have to do your part to see role play come to you.


Attend Events. - This is a big one. We're an Event run guild so it's only natural that half our events are going to be centered around combat and events. We're not a House guild or anything that just sits around all day like Days of our Lives. When an event happens, you can believe there is going to be shit going down. Awesome shit, mind you. Sunguard events are often the BEST WAY to get yourself involved with characters. What Felthier often does is he'll station us to be at a remote location for an entire week so that we're forced to find a reason to interact with one another. Our last event had us stationed at Ashenvale for I believe three days. It was a perfect opportunity for new folks to wander about and interact with everyone.

Now, I understand that sometimes schedules conflict and we're not always available. But when you have an event where you're stationed in a remote area for a week, there should not be any excuse why you were unable to find RP! It's ripe for the taking. The perfect encounter to discuss war tactics, problems, or anything that comes to mind either related to the event or just your character. Attend these events. ATTEND them. You won't regret it! Now, it does mean you still have to branch out yourself. But what makes it beautiful is that now you should have more than enough reason to invite yourself to conversations happening or create one.

Roll20 events are the bread and butter of what makes Sunguard run. By attending the main events, sub-events, and even mini-events, it allows you to get invested into the culture and makings of the guild. Sometimes there will be a few opportunities to hang and mingle outside of roll20 in game with places we are stationed. Yet for full investment, committing to the events is definitely necessary.


(I'll add more throughout the day here. )
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#7800206 May 09, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Archon
834 Posts
I cannot express how right this is enough. Thank you Tiah!


We want all new members to feel welcomed. Things in the Sunguard are earned, but you have every chance of interacting with us!
Ishura dan dieb
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#7800243 May 09, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Oathsworn
20 Posts
This is actually pretty great, especially for a noob RP'er like me. I have bookmarked this post and will return to it when I have time to dive into RP!

Thanks!
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#7801480 May 09, 2013 at 05:11 PM
Oathsworn
88 Posts
Yo Felth, you should move this to the Guild Basics forums and sticky/pin it. It's good and necessary info.
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#7801679 May 09, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Sunward
640 Posts
I just want to say that 95% of the time I spend logged on I am riding my bike around SMC. If anyone wants random rp, all you really have to do is whisper me or call me out on the stones.

I've seen the battle and I've seen the war
And the life out here is the life I've been sold.
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#7802091 May 09, 2013 at 07:58 PM
Oathsworn
14 Posts
A good portion of the time I'm sitting on my Deathcharger so if anyone wants random RP well, what plaguewalker said
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#7802530 May 09, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Archon
834 Posts
Updated and thread moved. Good guide Tiah.
Ishura dan dieb
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#13926472 Dec 21, 2018 at 07:58 PM
Officer
156 Posts
Going to update this soon.
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